读币看世界第十六期:专访英国区块链招聘平台APPII创始人加里.麦凯
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本期读币看世界邀请到的嘉宾,是英国区块链招聘平台APPII的创始人加里.麦凯。

读币哥一直对区块链招聘领域很关注,而这一次采访加里先生,无疑提供了一个非常好的机会。外国人会考虑区块链的应用问题?区块链在招聘领域的潜力到底有多大?招聘领域的未来会变成怎样?近年来,互联网巨头频频收购招聘公司,这是否说明小型的招聘公司已经没有机会了?这些问题加里先生都会在专访中为我们解答。

访谈内容

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1、请问您是何时了解到区块链又是何时投身区块链行业的呢?您觉得区块链是如何吸引您的?

早在2013年我就注意到了比特币和周围的大多数创新的东西不一样。在2014年的时候因为我曾供职于金融服务部门,我对区块链的兴趣更深了。很明显,世界将会被一项新技术改变,这个新技术将显著的打破中介行业的职责,而首当其冲的就是金融服务行业。 

2、请问您认为区块链的应用会给整个英国社会带来哪些革新?您希望政府出台哪些项目来促进区块链的发展?

简单来说,英国政府需要赶紧采取积极主动的立场来支持新技术的应用。政府需要支持那些已经开始准备要改善英国公民和公司的初创企业,这些公司急需通过创新来提供生产力。目前我看到许多政府机构部门对这项技术的应用任抱有怀疑态度。与此同时那些得到海外政府积极扶持的初创企业正获得优势。除非在对区块链的心态上有重大改变,不然与其他支持区块链发展的国家相比,英国将失去其经济优势。

3、一个很现实的问题是,很多人只会在求职时使用简历,求职后就会将简历丢到一边,面对这个问题,你们打算如何延长用户的使用时长,拓宽自己的商业边界呢?

APPII不只是一个做简历和简历的认证平台,我们的用户群能将他们验证过的资料用于其他用途。比如鉴于我们要求用户完成生物验证验明身份,他们也能利用他们验证过的资料来进入安保大楼,参加项目,注册其他的公司或服务等。验证过的职业历史记录只是APPII提供的广阔服务的第一步而已。

4、招聘领域的巨头领英已经被出售给了微软,这是否意味着招聘类的网站最终都会和大企业进行合并?你如何看待近几年来招聘求职领域频繁的兼并现象?

我认为目前这个行业太多服务提供商反倒让求职者和雇主感到困惑。 随着脸书、谷歌等这种超级大牛的触角伸到招聘领域,我认为这种兼并是不可避免的。我只看到了这个趋势的加速,却没有看到行业从业者为此所做的准备。

5、请您谈谈在创业过程中遇见的最大问题是什么?最后是怎么克服的?

 大多数用户在意的是结果,他们不是特别的在意我们是用区块链技术来提供这个结果的。区块链是我们用户想要拿到的结果但是我们要避免用户受到技术的底层的复杂性的影响。在2015/2016年的时候,区块链技术还是相对比较新的,还存在需要克服实用性的问题。我们就此花了很多时间来决定怎样不要让用户意识到我们用的是区块链技术。我们最终的解决方案带来了良好的用户体验以及用户测试(迭代)。

6、请您介绍一下您目前的公司,您认为目前招聘市场存在哪些问题?您为什么要创办APPII呢?

找工作和招聘之间任然还有很多的障碍,因此我们创立了APPII来让求职者和招聘者更容易求职和招聘。

对求职者进行背景审查要花很多钱、时间和精力。背景审查在某些特定的行业要花8周的时间来完成,平均花费在100英镑,而且这里面会出现以前进行过审查的求职者还要被要求进行重复审查的浪费的情况。

求职者和招聘者都因此受到损失。

APPII帮助求职者预先进行履历的验证以及轻易参与终身学习。招聘者可以让应聘者用APPII客户的快速的进行身份验证。使用区块链技术的认证可以确保履历的验证只用进行一次。应聘者可以减少重复验证并从之前验证过的信息中重新使用,从而减少雇主和求职者所花费的时间和精力。

7、请问您为什么要给自己的项目命名为APPII?

APPII简单的拉丁文 翻译就是“远见”我们希望能帮助求职者和招聘者开阔眼界,帮助他们发现未来隐藏的机遇。

8、我们了解到APPII自从2016年发展至今已经有两年了,请问在过去的两年里APPII有哪些最新的进展?能否透露一下您们的战略和业务是怎样规划的?未来APPII有什么推广计划吗?

APPII目前提供招聘者的信息给雇主,雇主可以要求求职者进行身份验证, 在特定司法管辖区工作的权利、确定他们是否有刑事定罪等事项。这些服务对求职者都是不可见的除非他们与使用APPII雇主确定劳务关系。

9、APPII是一个区块链职业认证管理招聘平台,请问它的盈利模式是怎样的?

雇主花钱查看求职者验证过的信息 。

10、我们了解到目前已经有多家区块链招聘平台比如在东欧有CV Proof、美国的Aworker以及中国的简历链,您认为APPII与同类软件相比有什么优势?

 我们不光光是一个简历认证平台,简历认证只是帮助个人和机构又快又便宜的实现他们梦想的第一步而已。

11、求职者将个人简历信息通过APPII进行认证,请问APPII如何降低求职者的个人信息泄露风险?

 APPII在确保平台不受恶意行为和数据泄漏的影响方面出了巨大的努力。从区块链的角度来看,我们已经部署了一些强力的措施来保证用户对他们的资料有完全的控制权,包括谁能看谁能访问和读取他们的信息。

12、请问APPII如何避免求职者使用假信息的验证?

我们尽可能地让数据采集和验证 自动化。我们通过生物认证机制确认人们的身份,然后所有的数据包括注册用户以及生物验证特征的的公司代表同意正在编写以及验证的内容。

13、请问您自己有投资数字货币吗?你会从哪几个角度去选择投资的?

是的,我之前买过数字货币,那时我真的是很好奇。我买这么多数字货币的唯一的原因就是其广泛的效用性 。门控效用似乎有违常理但是我相信在我们拥有非门控效用的应用之前,数字加密货币生态系统还存在诸多的变数。

14、请问您是如何看待“无币”区块链的?我们应该如何理解区块链里的通证?APPII现在为什么还没有发行属于自己的通证?

综上所述,门控效用的通证对我来说似乎是有违常理的,但是在门控平台/社区之外需要有效用性通证才能有效用才能被广泛的应用。我在等待银行接受数字资产(不一定是数字加密资产),使银行成为交易的终端。当我们见证这一刻的时候我认为我们会看到在正常的商业环境中,通证数量的大幅度增加。

APPII十分的看中通证的作用但是只是用于给参与者提供回报。我们目前已经在筹备关于通证的事情,当我们觉得时机成熟,我们会公之于众。

15、请问您对未来几年全球区块链生态的看法是怎样的?

我觉得在未来几年我们看不到这个东西。区块链技术已经在相关领域进行了应用但是并不是所有的领域。像APPII这样的公司肯定会领先但是它不那么需要关注技术的应用而是更关注这个技术能给大家带来的福利是什么。很多人都不关心技术的基础而是关心这个技术是否会让他们的生活变得更简单便利。

16、请您谈谈您对去中心化未来的发展

这是一个很大的问题,我觉得我们可以改日再谈。我就说说现在发生的吧。我希望去中心化可以加快发展,当去中心化发生时,大多数人并不会意识到。

 英文访谈

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1.When did you get to know blockchain and when were you engaged in blockchain? How did it attract your attention in your opinion?

I noticed in early 2013 that Bitcoin was a little different from most innovations that were around. My interest in blockchain went deeper in early 2014 when working within Financial Services. It was very apparent that the world was about to be introduced to a technology that would significantly disrupt broker models, with financial services being top of the list.

2.What revolutionary changes do you think will be brought to British society in your opinions? what kind of measures, do you think, British government should introduce in order to encourage the development of blockchain?

Put simply, the British government needs to quickly adopt a proactive stance to support the use of the technology. It needs to support the start-ups that have set out to enhance the lives of British citizens and U.K. organisations who so badly need a boost in productivity through innovative platforms. At present, we see a great deal of scepticism by government agencies on the use of the technology and, whilst this is happening, start-ups who are supported by their proactive overseas governments are gaining advantage. The U.K. will lose out on the economic advantage being capitalised upon by other countries who are supporting the tech unless there is a significant change in mindset towards the adoption of blockchain technology.

3.There is a fact that people will only use Curriculum Vitae that are encrypted by APPII when they are looking for jobs and after having a job, they may not use APPII. How would you solve the problem, increasing your customer stickiness?

APPII is more than just a platform for people creating and verifying their curriculum vitae. Our user base will be able to use their verified profile for a wide variety of other means. For example, given that we ask members biometrically verify their identity, they will be able to use their profile to gain entry to buildings, participate in events, register with other companies and services providers and much, much more. A verified career history is only but the beginning of a wide range of extended services that APPII will be providing.

4.Giant in recruiting sector, LinkedIn, for example, has been sold to Microsoft. If this means that recruiting website will eventually amalgamate with Giant? May I have your opinion about the mergers and acquisition in recruiting sector in recent years? 

I think that there are too many services providers in the industry which causes confusion for job seekers and employers. It is inevitable that significant aggregation will happen with uber platforms such as Facebook, Google, etc. broaden their recruitment offerings. I can only see this accelerating in the upcoming years, and I don’t believe that the industry is prepared for this.

5.Can you tell us what was the biggest problem when you found APPII? How did you solve that problem?

Most of our users are looking for a desired outcome (verification) and don’t particularly care that we’re using blockchain to provide that outcome. Blockchain is an intrinsic part of delivering the outcome our users want but we needed to shield them from the underlying complexity of the technology. The technology (in 2015/2016) was still relatively new, with performance and usability issues that we needed to overcome. We spent a great deal of time determining how to make the user unaware that blockchain was being used. Resolution came with good user experience design and user testing (many iterations).

6.Please introduce your current venture, APPII. What problems, do you think, are in recruiting sector now? Why did you found APPII?

There are far too many barriers that sit between those looking for work and those seeking to hire talent. We founded APPII to make the lives of job seekers and employers easier.

Performing background checks on prospective employees is costly, takes time and involves wasted effort. Background checks can take up to 8 weeks in certain industries, costing, on average, £100, and checks are unnecessarily repeated even though previous employers have undertaken the same checks.

Employers and job seekers are unnecessarily put at disadvantage.

APPII assists job seekers pre-verify their career history and easily capture the participation in lifelong learning. Employers can request job candidates to perform background checks easily and quickly through the APPII mobile app. Utilising blockchain technology ensures that any verification of career history is only undertaken once. Job seekers can reuse captured and verified information in subsequent background checks diminishing the time and effort for both them and employers.

7.Can you tell us why did you name your project "APPII"?

A simple translation of APPII in Latin is ‘Farsighted’. We wanted to help job seekers and employers see beyond the current horizon, to assist them in identifying opportunities that are further in the future and more than often hidden from them.

8.We learned that APPII has been developing for 2 years.  Can you tell us what are the latest developments in the past 2 years. What are your strategic and business plan? Do you have any promotion plan of APPII?

APPII recently launched a service for employers to seek information from job seekers. Employers can ask job seekers to verify such things as their identity, their right to work in a given jurisdiction, to determine whether they have any criminal convictions etc. None of these services are visible to users unless they are engaged by an employer that is using APPII.

9.APPII is a is an online verification, career management, and recruitment platform. What is the profit model of APPII?

Employers pay to view verified information regarding job seekers

10.We learned that there are many competitors in the world such as CV proof, Aworker and Curriculum Vitae Chain. Compared with your competitors, what are your advantages?

We are much more than a CV verifier, and see CV verification as just the first step in assisting individuals and organisations achieve their ambitions quickly and cheaply.

11.The applicants' personal information will be verified by APPII, how can APPII reduce the risks of applicants' personal information disclosure?

APPII has put significant effort into ensuring that our Platform is protected from malicious action and data leakage. From a blockchain perspective we’ve deployed some robust measures to ensure that the user is in complete control as to who can, view, access and read their information. 

12.How can APPII avoid" garbage in and garbage out" when verifying the information?

We try to automate data information capture and verification as much as we can. We start by ensuring that people are who they say they are through biometric identity verification. Then, all verified data requires both the registered member and biometrically verified representative of a company to concur on what is being written and verified.

13.Have you invested cryptocurrency? What aspects are you going to choose a cryptocurrency?

Yes, I bought cryptocurrency back in the day, I was being inquisitive really. The only reason I’d buy a lot of cryptocurrency is for utility, and widespread utility at that. Gated utility seems somewhat counter intuitive. I believe that there is a lot more change required within the cryptocurrency ecosystem before we have non-gated utility.

14.May I have your opinion about the blockchain without token? How should we understand the token in blockchain ecosystem? Why does not APPII have its own token?

As above, a gated utility token seems counter intuitive to me. There needs to be utility outside the gated platform/community before it makes real sense and before the token will gain widespread adoption. I’m waiting for banks to deploy merchant terminals that are able to accept digital assets (not necessarily crypto) as a method of exchange of value. When we see this happening I believe we’ll see a rapid rise in the use of tokens in normal commercial settings.

APPII has looked deeply at the use of tokens, but mainly for the use of participant rewards. We have a few things up our sleeve regarding tokens that we’ll reveal when we believe that it’s the right time to.

15.What’s your opinions towards global blockchain ecosystem in the next few years? 

I don’t think we’ll see this in the next few years. Blockchain technology has application for certain digital processes and activities, but not all digital processes and activities. The likes of APPII will certainly be leading the charge, but it needs to be less about the use of the tech and more about the material benefits that the technology can provide. Most people don’t care about the underpinnings of a technology and care more about whether a technology makes their lives simpler.

16.Please tell us about your opinion about the future of decentralization.

A large question for another day perhaps. Let me just say that it is happening now, I hope that decentralisation accelerates, and that widespread decentralization, when it occurs, is not obvious to most people.

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